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Andrew
2024-05-01 15:13:27 UTC
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Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders than these seven?

1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noasy.newsreader
7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=usenet.sinaapp.com

Some of those are no longer valid URLs but I'm just looking for the package
names of all known Android Usenet news newsreaders (whether they're bad or
worse) as once I know the package I can get the APK from mirrors such as
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
https://www.appbrain.com/app/noasy-reader/com.noasy.newsreader
Dave Royal
2024-05-01 15:49:55 UTC
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Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders ...
See thread 'Newsreader for Android' in ng 'news.software.readers'
for mod.piaohong versions.
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Andrew
2024-05-01 21:15:42 UTC
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Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders than these?
1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noasy.newsreader
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=usenet.sinaapp.com
Some of those are no longer valid URLs but I'm just looking for the package
names of all known Android Usenet news newsreaders (whether they're bad or
worse) as once I know the package I can get the APK from mirrors such as
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
https://www.appbrain.com/app/noasy-reader/com.noasy.newsreader
< WARNING >
Please scroll to the bottom for the latest Mod17 links, one of which
has an invalid decryption key so you can only use the Mod16 link for it!
</ WARNING >
See the thread 'Newsreader for Android' in ng 'news.software.readers'
for mod.piaohong versions.
This one?
From: kyonshi <***@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Newsreader for Android
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 20:44:54 +0100
Message-ID: <uo41vk$124mn$***@dont-email.me>

Is there a usable Android newsreader?
I used to use Groundhog, but that one hasn't been maintained for a few
years (and the apk can be installed but doesn't play well with my
current Android phone).
I also have PhoNews, but not only is that one incredibly slow, it also
keeps forgetting I paid for the full version.

That post mentioned PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader & Ken's Usenet Reader
both of which were already in the list but it also mentioned Ken's demo.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader>

And apparently in that thread you had kindly supplied a URL to a modded'
PiaHong newsreader credited to 'alfio' or 'P/ero' on the Italian newsgroup.
<https://mega.nz/file/aJpFRI4Z#UjkHkl90feawI1_EFOd4eEkautnQPWFSwmqW7NUW2jA>

Which apparently came from
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/ntEtNepA/modded-newsreader-apk-by-piaohong-download>

Name: 20240501_modded_PiaHong_Usenet_newsreader_signedNewsReader_mod_1.65.M10.apk
Size: 2238872 bytes (2186 KiB)
SHA256: A6079804589087EB98D5699AA577E4E6CFCE31B8682EA3154860801231175DAB

Google Translation: "Modded Newsreader.apk by PiaoHong - download?"
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/ntEtNepA/modded-newsreader-apk-by-piaohong-download?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

Later on you mention "Alfio has produced a new version M11 of his modded
version of the PiaiHong newsreader. This fixes bugs in M10. It's a new
app from Android's viewpoint so you should delete M10 or the original.
It doesn't work on Android 14. It's based on the 1.65 free version of
the PiaiHong Newsreader.
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/Q64EXrJy/piaohong-news-reader-mod-11>

Where this is the link to download the modified version M11.
<https://mega.nz/file/qVxDVB5R#9d4p7fay3KS20yD7mfIvHafUZFji3kEXy1W9B_Gtgrs>

Name: NewsReader_1.65.M11.apk
Size: 2237140 bytes (2184 KiB)
SHA256: 980F3489602A9E58D4F80F3AEA8AC4315880C17859DD425879F23214EF5E7282

Google Translation: "PiaoHong News Reader Mod 11"
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/Q64EXrJy/piaohong-news-reader-mod-11?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

There is a related post in that thread, which Google translated for us.

From: Ammammata <***@tiscali.it>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:45:50 +0100
Message-ID: <uoqpov$t83j$***@solani.org>

I didn't feel like leaving Android 14 owners without my Mod.
so I worked hard and this is the result:
https://mega.nz/file/iVYSlRKD#kSeQuOLfmAqocp_6MkWWDxoE3MN1S17pwQ2WSRrss4M

this is the latest version released by PiaoHong, 2.02, in which
I made all the changes made in recent years to the previous one
1.65.
I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know.

Unfortunately, although the name of this mod is different from the original,
you can't install them together, you get this warning:
Loading Image...
whatever Google means by "services", it complains that it sees it
same identifier in different applications.

if you update the M11 instead, there are no problems.

And then a quick followup by that same Italian poster.
From: Ammammata <***@tiscali.it>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:48:25 +0100
I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know
and you've already found one! :-)))
here's the fix:
https://mega.nz/file/3cpgyCiR#xtmcG09dvt3E0oqlk4awBz7VbrNUpfJ9Y1qXM4Jec0o
the previous link is no longer valid.

maybe further updates will follow

And the updates did follow.
From: Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 18:28:27 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <up8qob$imit$***@dont-email.me>
X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M12

The latest version of mod.piaohong.M12 by 'alfio' (24-1-24 11.14)
is here:
<https://mega.nz/file/OEBjAK4A#-RfkwmqsrONXnL84PeiV74F1R8LHutjIeAAH8tnlFBQ>

The Italian thread about it is here:
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12>

It fixes the quoting fault of the official app but, unlike the VIP
version, it has google ads.

Where this is the file that is located at that link above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M12.apk
Size: 3972199 bytes (3879 KiB)
SHA256: B0366F5E5ACC0CD70341EAD2E8524D76A4431973899203A44B8C01CE123EF27C

And this is the Google Translation of that thread.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 12 by alfio
I didn't feel like leaving Android 14 owners without my Mod.
so I worked hard and this is the result:
https://mega.nz/file/iVYSlRKD#kSeQuOLfmAqocp_6MkWWDxoE3MN1S17pwQ2WSRrss4M

it's the latest version released by PiaoHong, 2.02, in which I
made all the changes made in recent years to the previous 1.65.
I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know.

Unfortunately, although the name of this mod is different from the original,
they cannot be installed together, you get this warning:
https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12:i.1.1.full

Where you then posted:
From: Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 18:22:47 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <uq0hpp$1hor2$***@dont-email.me>
X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M14

Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:

Version M14
- displays x-posted groups and has (limited) ability to change
them when replying.
- creates a thread from a reply if it doesn't have the replied to
post (i.e threads that start Re:.xxxxxxxxx)

It's here:
<https://mega.nz/file/fFRE1Dob#-2zDfsB2XJvckN2ZZ1dJUk1GVwEEC1xrsj5aTnIbi0I>

The Italian thread about it is here:
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/Qzv1uCma/piaohong-newsreader-mod-14>

(It has google ads.)

Where this is the file that is located at that link above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M14.apk
Size: 3972074 bytes (3878 KiB)
SHA256: 54FC22C21D3C02801BE8D48340A189C3F20C5B7E309D851F21ABBEB6FF745B7E

And this is the Google Translation of that thread.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/Qzv1uCma/piaohong-newsreader-mod-14?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 14 by alfio
here we go again, here's a new version :-)

the new Mod 14 solves 1 small bug of the M13, but above all,
thanks to Dave Royal, adds the display of
orphan messages, i.e. those messages that are part of discussions which
do not exist on the server the initial message.

here is the link:
https://mega.nz/file/fFRE1Dob#-2zDfsB2XJvckN2ZZ1dJUk1GVwEEC1xrsj5aTnIbi0I

the color of the 3-dot menu in night mode still needs to be fixed
which is illegible in Android versions lower than 13.
suggestions in this regard are accepted.

To which you replied there was another update to version 15.
From: Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:03:50 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <uqfb9n$210sa$***@dont-email.me>
X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M15

Mod 15 fixes a major bug and adds the option to not hide quotes.
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/YWALr2Gj/piaohong-newsreader-mod-15>

Here is the translation of that post by Alfio in the Italian ng.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/YWALr2Gj/piaohong-newsreader-mod-15?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 15 by alfio
https://mega.nz/file/zRx1zZQa#NwKSILiVa7TF47nCiRyqRkDT_EvovfHltT9KXGmif-8

what's new:
- fixed M14 bug that blocked the app by opening a thread with many
messages
- added option to enable hidden quoting from the 6 dots
- application of filters when updating the group list
- eliminated "Update" item in the main menu

regarding filters, the original app updated the internal database
only when a new message arrived and only the groups in which they arrived
new messages, now by performing an "Update" (the 2 arrows or by pulling down
the list of groups) the filters are applied to all the groups,
so after creating a new filter you need to go to the group list and
execute "Update" to apply it.
I remind you that the "delete" action in the definition of a filter deletes
the message from the internal database. By removing the filter, the deleted messages
return only after a "reset" of the group and subsequent
downloading of all the messages.

Here is the file at that M15 location above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M15.apk
Size: 3972074 bytes (3878 KiB)
SHA256: B6EED4058C06904BB05095F8F7CD7BC40F0487BC5E4248CA73EBAB0BF3FA48D1

Later in that same thread is an important discussion about ad blocking.
by alfio
A separate discussion concerns advertising messages.
You could make a yes/no option editable and set to "yes"
by default.
the user can already choose not to see advertising, just use
any AD block app.
I use DNS66, I don't see any ads in PiaoHong.

By the way, for all the possible "Private DNS" settings, see this thread.
Private DNS in Android settings
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44503&group=comp.mobile.android#44503>
That thread contains every known & tested Private DNS for Android.

The thread is longer but this dialog could be important to note.
Post by fandango:
can I switch from Version:1.65.M10 to this one? (15)

Post by alfio:
No, they are two separate versions.
But you just need to make a backup of the 10 (with the appropriate
function, present in the server configuration in practice), and
the new installation of the 15 will recover it for you.

It will be installed as a new app and coexists with M10, this is because
from M11 onwards I changed the internal name of the app to avoid
the PlayStore always trying to update it.

And then there was a discussion about re-using an old paid version.
Post by Henry The Mole
https://mega.nz/file/zRx1zZQa#NwKSILiVa7TF47nCiRyqRkDT_EvovfHltT9KXGmif-8

Do you happen to have the apk of the paid version of this app lying
around somewhere ? I bought it and have always used it but
now it has been removed from the PlayStore and with the latest clean
flash of my smartphone for yet another modding I find myself taken aback.

The app is called Usenet NewsReader (net.piaohong.NewsReader) and the latest
version should be 2.02 late 2019.

Post by Taf
If alfio doesn't get you the "original" version that you purchased,
you could download this one (which however is also "modded", like
alfio's - but in a less "intrusive" way):
https://www.happymod .cloud/usenet-newsreader/net.piaohong.NewsReader/
(it's "paid for free", so someone tampered with it).

In any case, if I were you, I would consider
Alfio's MOD 15 which is based on Piao Hong's 2.02. At least you know
who got their hands on it...

Or wait to see if alfio and/or P/ero have a copy of the
original 2.02.

Maybe on an old device (which I don't have here with me now) I could
even have it too. But it's a phone I haven't used for years! I'll have
to see if it still turns on (tonight).

Where this is the prelude to the file found in that link above.
<https://happymod.com/usenet-newsreader-mod/net.piaohong.NewsReader/>
App name Usenet NewsReader Mod APK 1.16 [Paid for free][Free purchase]
Version 1.16
Update on 2019-10-26
Size 0.65 MB
Mod info Paid for free
Developer Piaohong
Usenet NewsReader Mod is a modified version of Usenet NewsReader developed
by Piaohong. The difference between mod version and original version is:
Paid for free... You can download latest mod version or original version
of Usenet NewsReader 2.02 with HappyMod.
<https://www.happymod.to/usenet-newsreader-mod/net.piaohong.NewsReader/>
Download: Usenet NewsReader v2.02 MOD APK
Updated On Oct 26, 2019 App Version v2.02

And this is the file linked to directly above.
Name: com-mod-usenet-newsreader-mod-paid-1-16-17.apk
Size: 682589 bytes (666 KiB)
SHA256: CCDE2FE8C95995985B91D60DD45931DF4F3733B749DF73851C1248A108F7EFC6

Later in that Italian thread, Roxy posted this link to the unmodded apk.
https://apkcombo.com/newsgroup-reader/net.piaohong.newsgroup/download/apk
Name: NewsGroup Reader_2.02_apkcombo.com.apk
Size: 3956374 bytes (3863 KiB)
SHA256: 39844AC67148015F204DA2B39173B7C4A77E52400AD5D361F3527C13A4A082AD

The thread goes on for a while but that seems to be the last APK link.
Then there is the next mod which was discussed.

From: Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 08:04:38 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <urc7up$13am7$***@dont-email.me>

Mod 16 adds a simple filter on the Newsgroups header, so you can
filter out posts x-posted to a specified group.

There is a version with different colours.
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/hfxpyFVL/nreader-mod16-quando-un-link-per-il-download>

Here is the translation of that M16 post by Alfio in the Italian ng.

alfio
there he is!

version with new colors:
https://mega.nz/file/GAwnTAaI#CshrBLtSl2smdcmHiBD0wdj-V409CJyq9nJ7IpQ0ooY
I forgot to tell you that I then used a lighter purple
because it looks better with the dark theme.

version with original colors:
https://mega.nz/file/DdQyVBgY#jq7uq7r4e8waidolLyvLgD_G_Rc82_FURYxaak7NUCI

as the only additional feature there is the possibility to set the
crosspost filters, everything else you reported here on the
group still needs to be done.

And here are the two M16 files from that alfio post above.
version with new colors:
Name: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
Size: 3935119 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: 010AAF7EFF0ABBE040E66BE0486F6D32936432EC16C8F2FB56717479C76F4CDA

version with original colors:
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
Size: 3922831 bytes (3830 KiB)
SHA256: 97B27E062306C9D6FEA9FC6EA49FEA7D920FF7C0CB05AAFBBEB9C96758A68C97

There's a discussion about the mods being "retroactive" whatever that means.
Post by Timo Kotipelto
I prefer the one with the classic colors but I will also try the one
with the colors (especially if you tell me that the installation in this case
is retroactive).

From Mod 12 onwards (which is based on PHNR 2.02) it is always retroactive!
It is always installed as an update in both directions (from mod 12
towards the latest and vice versa)

Then Roxy pointed out:
I want to point out that on the version with basic colors the
marked icons no longer have the white symbol on the gray icon,
now they are all gray and it is barely visible.

To which alfio responded:
Thanks for the report, I will change the color of that icon.
here is the fix:
https://mega.nz/file/nBZUwAaQ#5u3Vv7L2L5aQ7yIQOzD65-bC15FG8YuxctabJmdNq40

The M16 file that the above links to is the following:
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
Size: 3922764 bytes (3830 KiB)
SHA256: 56F115367EBA6BDC294AD98DE2F90BA070EA2485CED8E9BBBC663E85750AC6C0

Then Mod 17 came out.
From: Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:41:41 +0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <utolfm$7jfn$***@dont-email.me>
X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M16

Dave Royal <***@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:
And Mod 17 a few weeks ago added:
- the option to _not_ display replies to posts where the
replied-to post had not been downloaded in that newsgroup (e.g.
the reply was x-posted from another ng)
- the ability to add simple customised headers

You'll find it if you look down the threads here:
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/>

Apparently that thread is the following about Mod 17.
https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/mYfj7e7Y/piaohong-newsreader-mod-17

Which, translated, says:
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/mYfj7e7Y/piaohong-newsreader-mod-17?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>
PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 17 by alfio

since the Don was eager to use the new version,
here it is :-)

OriginalColor:
https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI

ModColor:
https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmg

PJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE nothing special new on the color front, while I added 2 new
settings:
1- "View orphaned messages", the function was already present
in the M16 but not everyone liked it, now you can't use it.
Its use modifies the data present in the internal DB,
a reset of the groups and a new refresh is therefore recommended when
this setting is changed, otherwise you will see inconsistencies between
messages saved before and after the change of the option.

2- "Custom headers", you can define the attributes that
make up the header of a message. They must be written one
per line, separating ID from the text with the sequence ": " (colon
space). There is no control over what you write, the
server you post with will tell you what is wrong during
sending.

The two related APKs for those two links above are:
OriginalColor:
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3926860 bytes (3834 KiB)
SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

ModColor:
The download attempt resulted in an error of an invalid decryption key.

Nobody seems to have noticed the invalid decryption key, so maybe it's
just me (yet all the other similar links to the same site worked for me).

Moving on in that Mod17 thread, there's a discussion about hidden features.
From alfio: I discovered that PiaoHong had already sketched it.
he inserted it in the server definition, the page where
we enter the server url, port and username contains 2
hidden fields to insert the custom headers.
the code to use the data entered is missing, if you think it could
also be useful at the server definition level, I can try
to move it there, reusing the draft made by PiaoHong.

another thing sketched out and left hidden by PiaoHong is the
ability to mark a message as "favorite".
here too the draft stops at the display of an icon
(star) that changes color when pressed, the code to
store the choice in the DB and carry out searches or filter by
favorites is missing.

That's the end, where unfortunately, the "modified color" mod17
link has an invalid decryption key, so you can only get teh Mod 17
original color.

If anyone has the mod17 modified color link, please post in reply.
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2024-05-01 21:53:38 UTC
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Post by Andrew
If anyone has the mod17 modified color link, please post in reply.
I have this link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz/view?usp=drivesdk

Please let me know if it's still downloads le from here
I don't Remember if this Is the "color" version. I Hope yes.
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2024-05-01 22:10:01 UTC
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Post by Andrew
If anyone has the mod17 modified color link, please post in reply.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz/view?usp=drivesdk
Please let me know if it's still downloads le from here
I don't Remember if this Is the "color" version. I Hope yes.
Thanks for that link to what might be the PiaHong Mod17 Modified Color
by Alfio which apparently has a corrupt encryption key when I tried today.
<https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmg>

Here is where the link you kindly supplied took me just now:
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz/view?usp=drivesdk>
<https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz&export=download>
<https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz&export=download&confirm=t&uuid=ec036d81-ba8f-4322-b5a6-3120f8877f4e>
Name: Mod 17 colori.apk
Size: 3935052 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03

It's not the same hash as the PiaHong Mod17 Original Color by Alfio.
<https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI>
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3926860 bytes (3834 KiB)
SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

So it's definitely different; I'll have to install it to say any more.
If someone can get a hold of Alfio, perhaps he can upload his to confirm?
Dave Royal
2024-05-02 09:17:50 UTC
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Ignore everything before M16. This solves the main problem with
the PiaoHong newsreader - screwed-up quoting. Also the
less-obvious design fault that it ignored replies if it didn't
have the replied-to post. It also reports x-posts, which is
important IMO.

The OC (original colours) version of M16 works adequately - not
perfectly - for me on an Android 13 tablet, and better than the
paid-for (VIP) version which I used for years. The colour version
is preferred by some on the Italian newsgroup - for phones I
think.

If you prefer the old behaviour whereby replies to missing
replied-to posts are ignored - which can lead to multiple threads
starting Re: and doesn't play well with filtering - then you can
revert that in M17. Also if you want to use odd headers, like
x-face. I haven't used M17.

I will report on any future changes in the earlier thread I
referred to in news.software.readers.

Mi scuso per aver scritto in inglese in un newsgroup italiano.
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Andrew
2024-05-02 15:06:01 UTC
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Post by Dave Royal
Ignore everything before M16.
<Italian newsgroup removed>

Thanks for that belated advice as it wasn't intuitive to me that Mod 17
wasn't a bugfix of Mod 16, so I appreciate the further clarification.

What you're saying is that either the two M16 files are the latest if you
want the improvements you had suggested to Alfie, or, if people prefer the
old ways with the addition of X-Face, the two M17 files are the latest.

Is that correct?
If so, that's confusing. At least at first it is.

I had downloaded all the versions, not knowing which version was going to
be the latest & greatest update.
Post by Dave Royal
This [Mod16] solves the main problem with
the PiaoHong newsreader - screwed-up quoting. Also the
less-obvious design fault that it ignored replies if it didn't
have the replied-to post. It also reports x-posts, which is
important IMO.
Thanks for the summary of what is in the PiaHong NewsGroup Mod16 by Alfie.

Mod16 Original Colors
<https://mega.nz/file/DdQyVBgY#jq7uq7r4e8waidolLyvLgD_G_Rc82_FURYxaak7NUCI>
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
Size: 3922831 bytes (3830 KiB)
SHA256: 97B27E062306C9D6FEA9FC6EA49FEA7D920FF7C0CB05AAFBBEB9C96758A68C97
Post by Dave Royal
The OC (original colours) version of M16 works adequately - not
perfectly - for me on an Android 13 tablet, and better than the
paid-for (VIP) version which I used for years. The colour version
is preferred by some on the Italian newsgroup - for phones I
think.
Mod16 Modified Colors
<https://mega.nz/file/GAwnTAaI#CshrBLtSl2smdcmHiBD0wdj-V409CJyq9nJ7IpQ0ooY>
Name: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
Size: 3935119 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: 010AAF7EFF0ABBE040E66BE0486F6D32936432EC16C8F2FB56717479C76F4CDA
Post by Dave Royal
If you prefer the old behaviour whereby replies to missing
replied-to posts are ignored - which can lead to multiple threads
starting Re: and doesn't play well with filtering - then you can
revert that in M17. Also if you want to use odd headers, like
x-face. I haven't used M17.
Thanks for that summary that M17 isn't a bugfix of M16 but that it's a
design change that reverts to the old ways (which makes it a different app
in terms of what you said was different above).

Plus M17 adds an X-Face header.
So it's going to be up to user preference which to use, M16 or M17.

Mod17 Original Colors by Alfie.
<https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI>
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3926860 bytes (3834 KiB)
SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

Mod17 Modified Colors by Alfie.
<https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE>
Name: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3935052 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03
Post by Dave Royal
I will report on any future changes in the earlier thread I
referred to in news.software.readers.
For reference for others, so they don't have to search for that thread as I
did, especially given newsreader retention sucks on the servers I use, is:

From: kyonshi <***@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Newsreader for Android
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 20:44:54 +0100
Message-ID: <uo41vk$124mn$***@dont-email.me>

<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1825&group=news.software.readers#1825>
<https://news.software.readers.narkive.com/9N1ys3VT/newsreader-for-android>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/news.software.readers/35512>

I will further post related issues to _that_ thread, as will you.
Thanks for helping all of us obtain a decent newsreader for Android.
Taf®
2024-05-02 11:27:47 UTC
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Megacut 8><---
Post by Andrew
If anyone has the mod17 modified color link, please post in reply.
this original link from Alfio's post is working for me [Mod 17 Color]:
https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE
Just now I downloaded and installed it on my smartphone for testing.
Everything's OK! it installs as an update of my previous version

The original alfio's post is this one:
Message ID: <urim2v$2mgck$***@dont-email.me>
[COMPLETE COPY/PASTE ON]
visto che il Don fremeva dalla voglia di usare la nuova versione,
eccola qui :-)

OriginalColor:
https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI

ModColor:
https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE

niente di nuovo sul fronte dei colori, mentre ho aggiunto 2 nuove
impostazioni:
1- "Visualizza messaggi orfani", la funzione era gia' presente
nella M16 ma non a tutti e' piaciuta, ora la si puo' non usare.
Il suo uso modifica i dati presenti del DB interno, e'
consigliato quindi un reset dei gruppi e nuovo refresh, quando si
cambia questa impostazione, altrimenti si vedono incongruenze tra
messaggi salvati prima e dopo il cambio dell'opzione.
2- "Headers personalizzati", si possono definire gli attributi che
compongono l'header di un messaggio. Devono essere scritti uno
per riga separando ID dal testo con la sequenza ": " (duepunti
spazio). Non c'e' nessun controllo su cosa scrivete, sara' il
server con cui postate a dirvi cosa non va bene, durante
l'invio.

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[COMPLETE COPY/PASTE OFF]

hope this helps... ^^

Anyway, my own personal thoughts for the OP: please, in the future try
to avoid crossposting. It is unwelcome behavior on usenet. Many thanks
in advance.

PS: Spero di non aver fatto torto a nessuno scrivendo solamente in
inglese. Ma il post originale è indirizzato anche a:
comp.mobile.android
news.software.readers
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Andrew
2024-05-02 14:25:45 UTC
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Post by Taf®
https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE
<See Italian translation below...>
<Vedi la traduzione in italiano qui sotto...>

Ah. Great. That longer link (than what I had used) works for me also.
Mod17 Modified Colors by alfie.
<https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE>
Name: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3935052 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03

Which I can now confirm is the same file kindly provided yesterday by Taf.
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz/view?usp=drivesdk>
Name: Mod 17 colori.apk
Size: 3935052 bytes (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03

Which means the file above & the one below are the two latest M17 versions.
Mod17 OriginalColor by alfie
<https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI>
Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Size: 3926860 bytes (3834 KiB)
SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

Belatedly I see what happened (it was all my fault!). Sorry. I apologize.
The Google Translate (or the Narchive display) broke Alfie's original link
into two components, where I mistakenly didn't catch there was a line
break.

Mea culpa! Apologies for the false alarm.

=============< Deepl translate in Italian is below >=============
=======< La traduzione in italiano di Deepl � qui sotto >========
Post by Taf®
https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE
Ah. Ottimo.
Quel link pi� lungo (di quello che avevo usato io) funziona anche a me.
Mod17 Colori modificati da alfie.
<https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE>
Nome: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Dimensione: 3935052 byte (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03

Che ora posso confermare essere lo stesso file gentilmente fornito ieri da
Taf.
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ASM_0d002N3pzqVxqLTIgnv5gBlxbiGz/view?usp=drivesdk>
Nome: Mod 17 colori.apk
Dimensione: 3935052 byte (3842 KiB)
SHA256: DA8C8DF91DFAA68047F58A3339B6D5B91857185623CB7F386B74F9DFE84D5B03

Ci� significa che il file sopra e quello sotto sono le due ultime versioni
di M17.
Mod17 OriginalColor di alfie
<https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI>
Nome: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
Dimensione: 3926860 byte (3834 KiB)
SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

Con ritardo vedo cosa � successo (� stata tutta colpa mia!). Mi dispiace.
Mi scuso.

Google Translate (o la visualizzazione di Narchive) ha spezzato il link
originale di Alfie in due componenti.
in due componenti, dove erroneamente non ho notato che c'era
un'interruzione di riga.
Mea culpa! Mi scuso per il falso allarme.

Tradotto con DeepL.com (versione gratuita)
AJL
2024-05-01 16:26:34 UTC
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Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders than these seven?
1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noasy.newsreader
7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=usenet.sinaapp.com
Some of those are no longer valid URLs but I'm just looking for the package
names of all known Android Usenet news newsreaders (whether they're bad or
worse) as once I know the package I can get the APK from mirrors such as
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
https://www.appbrain.com/app/noasy-reader/com.noasy.newsreader
Some comments on the readers above that I use/have used:

Piahhong's Newsgroup: It got/has a posting bug. The carriage returns are
gone. It still works but when you post you have to manually separate the
lines. A PITA.

Groundhog: It won't post after Android 9. The menu is gone. However it still
will read and is easier to use than PhoNews for reading. So I use it on my
Android devices for reading and when I want to post I switch over to
PhoNews.

PhoNews: I use it on my Chrome devices (like this Chromebook I'm now posting
with). For security reasons my Chrome devices don't allow sideloading so I
have to use what's in the Play Store. I bought this PhoNews Pro for 2 bucks
several years ago and it seems to do the job. I used to think it wouldn't
cross post but that may have been my error as I see that the Newsgroup line
above on this posting page can in fact be edited. It's not automatically
transferred from the reader page like my other newsreaders were. I'll have
to test it on the next crosspost I respond to. Sorry for the past slander
PhoNews (I think, time will tell)...
Jeff Layman
2024-05-01 17:43:44 UTC
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Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders than these seven?
1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noasy.newsreader
7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=usenet.sinaapp.com
Some of those are no longer valid URLs but I'm just looking for the package
names of all known Android Usenet news newsreaders (whether they're bad or
worse) as once I know the package I can get the APK from mirrors such as
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
https://www.appbrain.com/app/noasy-reader/com.noasy.newsreader
Have you considered using a browser to access Usenet, eg with
Newsgrouper (<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng>. You can try it out without
registering, although it will be read-only. This NG appears at
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/comp.mobile.android>, and if you scroll down
to the end you will see this thread.

There are other browser-interface Usenet apps available, such as novaBBS
at <https://www.novabbs.com/common/grouplist.php>.
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Andrew
2024-05-01 21:26:11 UTC
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Post by Jeff Layman
Have you considered using a browser to access Usenet, eg with
Newsgrouper (<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng>. You can try it out without
registering, although it will be read-only. This NG appears at
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/comp.mobile.android>, and if you scroll down
to the end you will see this thread.
There are other browser-interface Usenet apps available, such as novaBBS
at <https://www.novabbs.com/common/grouplist.php>.
Of course I've used a browser to read Usenet news, and, in fact, I have
group-specific shortcuts on my Android homescreen so I can read the various
groups I care about most - but the print is tiny given how small the phone
is compared to a full-sized desktop monitor.

Here are some archive links so that everyone else can make those shortcuts.

<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
<https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/comp.mobile.android>
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/>
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